Holt Community Council – Meeting Minutes – 15th Jan 2008

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Holt Community Council - Meeting Minutes - 15th Jan 2008

PRESENT: Mr. Gaade, Mr. Gibson, Mr. Ratcliffe, Mr. Roberts, Mrs Roberts, Mrs Jones, Ms. McConville, Mr. Lewis, Councillor Morris, P.C.S.Os.- Colette Murphy  & David Evans (Rossett), Mr. Brian Payne (footpaths) and Mr. Bob Campbell (website).

APOLOGIES: Mrs Clays, Mr. Williams and P.C. Griffiths.

CHAIR; Mr. Gaade, the Chairman, took the Chair and opened with a welcome and Good New Year wishes,

MINUTES: The minutes of the last meeting were proposed as a true record by Mr. Lewis and seconded by Mr. Roberts and duly signed.


Brian has done invaluable work on the Holt footpath system and had come to the meeting to ask for help and financial support to carry out a major venture.

Brian has been working with Cheshire Council who have done steps on the Farndon side and they have designed steps for Holt from Dee Lane up to the new bridge.

The council agreed to support Brian with the scheme but he was to go away and confirm a couple of important matters regarding permission to put the steps, maintenance e.t.c.

Also the Disability Discrimination Act. Many thanks to Brian for his hard work for the community.


Several matters were reported mainly quite a bit of work carried out in liaison with the new Street Scene operated with W.C.B.C. This is proving quite successful!

. Consumption of Alcohol – this is really being clamped down on but apparently most of the offenders are from Farndon/Malpas. If caught youngsters face being taken home to parents by the police.

. MUGA – This is the new provision for youths  and is a multi use play area, proving popular in many areas. Councillor Morris has kindly worked on this and has sent sketches and information to the school regarding the possibility of positioning it on the school field and having joint usage.

.Neighbourhood/Police panel will meet on 4th March, 2008.

.several matters were reported which are to be looked at.

Mr. Gaade asked if Inspector Purdie is to be invited to the meeting on the 4thMarch, 2008.

.Finally – the Wish List is still being looked at, with a couple of items in hand and the young people’s representatives are to be invited to another meeting.

Car Park – Light – this has been done but worked for 1 night? Need a light to shine on left hand side of the car park.

Thanks to the police for their information and help.



Planning has been granted despite 2 objectors who had written in to planning and contacted the clerk and Councillor Morris.

The clerk suggested that rather than spend money to upset people that only 1 board be made. Discussion took place and Mr. Roberts proposed that the 2 boards be sited as per planning permission, Mrs Jones seconded. Mr. Ratcliffe agreed to meet with the 2 gentlemen. Clerk to confirm the order with K. Massey.

2 .PROPOSED EXTENSION TO PUBLIC CAR PARK & TOILET                                   RE-FURBISHEMENT: This is still on going and Mrs Linda Roberts has been working very hard to liaising with Northern Marches at every stage. Thanks to Linda for this also Councillor Morris.

  1. BELLIS’S COUNTRY MARKET:planning to meet regarding some of the planning conditions.

4.REPRESENTATIVES ON HOLT TOWN TRUST: Clerk to confirm in writing.

5.HAND & HEART: Needed permission for signs in a Conservation area.

  1. PROPOSED NEW LLAN-Y-PWLL LINK ROAD:The plans for this have now been passed.




. Hugmore House Farm, Hugmore Lane, LLanypwll – Construction of fishing pool with associated landscaping – this was objected to as it is intensification of use of the site given the traffic situation here and the fact that there have been numerous different applications here. The access for additional traffic would cause concern. Mr. Ratcliffe proposed this Mr. Gibson seconded.

. 4 Turnberry  Avenue, Wrexham – kitchen extension and conservatory. No objections.

. 1 Millfields, Francis Lane, Holt – alteration to front fence line – Councillor Morris explained the hedge would not be affected and there were no objections to this.



The clerk had worked out the various costs on a base rate of 1220 on a Band D property which was a slight increase (in the residents favour) again from last year.

After discussion of possible expenditure but bearing in mind the cost to the residents Mr. Lewis proposed the precept be set at £34,500 Mrs Jones seconded.

This is an increase of £1220 on last years precept!


The clerk left the room for this discussion (which apparently was hilarious with Mr. Gaade on the clerk’s calculator – he should have stopped when he worked out £32,000 per annum!)

The clerk had not received an increase since 2006 and the rates have finally been agreed by Local Government therefore she was up-dated and her final salary is £3471-21 per annum. Back pay will be paid to April 06.

The clerk in future is to be kept in line with the National scale.

Mr. Gibson proposed this and Mr. Lewis seconded. All agreed.

The clerk expressed her thanks

10.KENYON HALL: A financial sheet was presented – thanks again to Mrs Roberts and after discussion a proposal was made but then withdrawn as it was decided to ask for pricing for the main jobs which needed to be carried out to keep the hall open and then possibly the Community Council could fund a complete scheme of work. This is to be a main item on the Agenda for February. (Mr & Mrs Roberts and Ms. McConville declared interest at the start of this item!)

11.PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH: A letter was received from the Church asking for help with their flooding problem. Again it was agreed to ask for an financial sheet and how much the quote for the work was.

  1. HOLT COMMUNITY CENTRE:A letter enclosing a financial sheet of the running of the centre was received and after discussion Mr. Lewis proposed £250 Mr. Roberts seconded.



These were quite numerous including street lights, culverts, name signs and an additional car park sign e.t.c. so in order to make progress it was agreed Mr. Gaade and the Clerk would meet Mike Jones, the Supervisor for Holt and walk the village with a list of items.

  1. PLAYING FIELD:Mr. Gaade reported that the entrance has been tidied and work done to the changing room of the portacabin. Thanks to the football club and Mr. Gaade for arranging this.
  2. NEW PRINTER;The clerk is to purchase a new printer/photocopier if old printer cannot be repaired.


1533 – Mrs J. Pierce  back pay to April 2006 -  £215-90.

1534 – Mrs J. Pierce  salary January              -   £289-27

1535Jones Computers new printer                 -    £  79-95

1536 – WCBC – C. Centre grant                   -    £250-00

1537 – Blue Loos – hire                                 -    £164-50

1538 – Dee Valley Water – supply                -    £  26-64

1539 – WCBC new light & quarterly maint. -   £1743-29

1540 – Prestige Electrical – 2 new lights      -     £ 356-00

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